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*Motion of Thanks on the President's Address- Contd.
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Please table it. We will examine it and get back to you.
HON. CHAIRPERSON:
SHRI RAHUL GANDHI: Sir, I have authenticated the article.
HON. CHAIRPERSON: Please continue your speech on Motion of
Thanks on President?s Address.
As I said yesterday, a very important matter in the
SHRI RAHUL GANDHI:
President?s speech is the matter of national security and the
relationship between us and the Chinese and the Pakistanis. There
is a very important matter that is quoted inside this article that I
have authenticated, which speaks about the reaction of the Prime
Minister. ? (Interruptions)
I am once again requesting you to please restrict
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yourself to the speech of the hon. President.
? (Interruptions)
HON. CHAIRPERSON: I am requesting LOP to please restrict
himself to the speech of the hon. President.
? (Interruptions)
Let us not
THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS; AND MINISTER OF MINORITY AFFAIRS (SHRI KIREN RIJIJU):
mislead the House. Let us clear the confusion. Today also, I have
requested both Venugopal ji and Gaurav ji. We are patiently
waiting to listen to the hon. Leader of the Opposition on the matter
which was referred to just now, yesterday, the Chair had given a
ruling on the paper which he has authenticated and which has
been tabled in the House. But what I am saying is, when a ruling
has already been given on a matter which he referred to yesterday,
he cannot quote the same matter again on the pretext of making a
reference indirectly. He cannot refer to the same matter.Please continue with your speech. We are waiting. ?
(Interruptions) But please avoid referring to a matter which has
been settled. ? (Interruptions)
SHRI K. C. VENUGOPAL (ALAPPUZHA): Sir, hon. Parliamentary Affairs Minister is trying to mislead the House. Of course, he called on us, me and Gaurav
Gogoi. ? (Interruptions)
HON. CHAIRPERSON: When hon. LOP is standing, you are
speaking.
? (Interruptions)
SHRI K. C. VENUGOPAL: Sir, I want to give a clarification. ?
(Interruptions) Please allow me to give a clarification. ?
(Interruptions) Please allow me to speak. ? (Interruptions)
HON. CHAIRPERSON: Hon. LOP is standing and you are
speaking.
? (Interruptions)
HON. CHAIRPERSON: Please allow him to speak.
? (Interruptions)
SHRI K. C. VENUGOPAL: One minute, Sir. I want to give a
clarification. The Parliamentary Affairs Minister has taken my
name? (Interruptions)
HON. CHAIRPERSON: Please allow him to speak. He has already
started his speech.
? (Interruptions)
HON. CHAIRPERSON: Let him speak.
? (Interruptions)
SHRI K. C. VENUGOPAL: Yesterday, hon. Speaker?s ruling was
not to quote the book. This was the only ruling. ? (Interruptions)
HON. CHAIRPERSON: No, Sir. He has already started speaking.
Let him continue.
? (Interruptions)
SHRI K. C. VENUGOPAL: Sir, I need to make a clarification
because the Parliament Affairs Minister has taken my name.
HON. CHAIRPERSON: Do you want him to speak or not?
? (Interruptions)
SHRI K. C. VENUGOPAL: Does this House belong to them only?
Does this House not belong to us?What is this yaar? Why are you saying this?
SHRI B. MANICKAM TAGORE (VIRUDHUNAGAR):
He has taken his name.
Venugopal ji, kindly be seated.
HON. CHAIRPERSON:
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HON. CHAIRPERSON: No. Please listen to me. What did you say
just now? What do you mean by yaar?
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HON. CHAIRPERSON: This is Parliament of India. You cannot
address the Chair by saying yaar. What is this?
? (Interruptions)
HON. CHAIRPERSON: You cannot address the Chair by saying
yaar.
? (Interruptions)
HON. CHAIRPERSON: Please take back your word. You cannot
address the Chair by saying yaar.
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HON. CHAIRPERSON: Hon. LOP is standing. Please allow him to
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speak. You are not allowing him to speak.
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HON. CHAIRPERSON: Please allow him to speak.
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HON. CHAIRPERSON: Please allow him to speak.
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No, it is not correct.
HON. CHAIRPERSON:
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HON. CHAIRPERSON: There should be decorum in the House.
You should respect the Chair. You should know how to behave in
the House.
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HON. CHAIRPERSON: No, it is not correct.Hon. Rahul ji, please continue to speak.
Sir, if the issue is my quoting a magazine which I have
SHRI RAHUL GANDHI:
authenticated, I am happy not to quote it directly. No problem. But I
have to be allowed to speak about it ? (Interruptions)
HON. CHAIRPERSON: Hon. LOP, Rahul Gandhi ji, please listen to
me. You have been given permission to speak on the President?s
Address.
SHRI RAHUL GANDHI: I am speaking on the President?s
Address.
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SHRI K. C. VENUGOPAL: ...
HON. CHAIRPERSON: Please allow him to speak. What is this?
Yesterday, hon. Speaker has given a ruling.
SHRI RAHUL GANDHI: Sir, it is not a permission that I am being
given ? (Interruptions) I am the Leader of Opposition of this
country? (Interruptions) You are not giving me permission?
(Interruptions) It is my right? (Interruptions)
HON. CHAIRPERSON: Hon. Speaker has already given a ruling
under Rule 349.
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HON. CHAIRPERSON: If you do not want LOP to speak, I will
have to give opportunity to others to speak.
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HON. CHAIRPERSON: I am giving him the opportunity.
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Hon. LOP can speak. He does not require your support.
SHRI RAHUL GANDHI: Hon. Chairperson, our President?s
Address was about the path that India has to chart, the direction in
which India has to move. Today, on the world stage, the main issue
in international affairs is the conflict between China and the United
States. ? (Interruptions) This is central to our President?s Address.
This is central, as you have seen, to our Budget. All I am saying is
that I want to make a statement about what happened between
China and India and how our Prime Minister reacted to it. Why am I
being stopped?
Sir, in eastern Ladakh, there was a conflict. Our soldiers were
killed. ? (Interruptions)
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? ()SHRI K.C. VENUGOPAL: Sir, what is this? Will you give a ruling
now?? (Interruptions)
14.12 hrs
At this stage, Shri Shafi Parambil and Shrimati Sanjna Jatav came
and stood on the floor near the Table.
I repeatedly requested the hon. Leader of Opposition to
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speak on the President?s Address.
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14.12 ½ hrs
At this stage, Shri Shafi Parambil and Shrimati Sanjna Jatav went
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their seats.
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HON. CHAIRPERSON: I made repeated requests to the hon.
Leader of Opposition to speak on the President?s Address.
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HON. CHAIRPERSON: Shrimati Satabdi Roy Banerjee.
I do not want to speak.
SHRIMATI SATABDI ROY BANERJEE (BIRBHUM):
HON. CHAIRPERSON: Shri D.M. Kathir Anand.
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HON. CHAIRPERSON: Shri G.M. Harish Balyogi.? (Interruptions)
14.13 hrs
At this stage, Shri B. Manickam Tagore, Shri Imran Masood and
some other hon. Members came and stood on the floor near the
Table.